Between Apache and I, we’re like a tangled, knotted mound of string.
(Apache after a rain storm and a roll in the mud)
We both have issues.
I’ve been trying to take it easy, but there’s so much to do, especially with Ranchman John working in Philly. There’s the llamas, goats and horse to feed three times a day and the chickens to feed every morning and the gathering of eggs every afternoon. There’s the kidlets to feed all day long, too. And the laundry, dishes and cleaning. And that’s the normal daily stuff to do.
I’ve been busy preparing my kidlets’ homeschool curriculum for which their school starts right after Labor Day (just like it did for me when I was growing up). After an in-depth study of Eastern Asia last year, my twinling Jem has decided that he wants to work towards visiting Japan in the next few years. Leading to that goal, he has also asked to learn Japanese for his chosen foreign language this school year, even though I thought that Spanish would be a better choice. Jem reminded me that he already took a short-course of Spanish a few years ago and it was very easy for him to learn the Spanish language. He will pick it back up again in another year or two. He wants to be bilingual and he isn’t at all intimidated by the strange and beautiful symbols of the Japanese language, like I am.
Speaking of languages, I was recently reading the Alltech FEI World Equestrian games website and was surprised to read this information on the Spectator page: “The United States does not have an official national language, although the majority of the population is fluent in English as a Native Language.”
Well that information threw me for a loop! Am I the only American that has grown up all her life believing that English is the Official National Language of the United States of America?
Anyway, is anyone planning on going to the FEI Equestrian Games beginning on September 26th? It promises to be an absolutely amazing event filled with so many beautiful horses and exciting competitions. I’d love to go, but between the high costs and finding a ranch/kidlet/animal sitter, it won’t be happening.
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I am still having issues with my vision, mainly with tracking and focus. But the most annoying issues are the headaches if I do too much. Like the other day I was pulling weeds and trimming bushes and trees. A few hours later my head was screaming.
I’m not driving in the city because of the vision issues, but I have been doing quite a bit of driving the last few days around the mountains. I’ve been carting my twinlings to their guitar lessons. I had a WNCR Horse Rescue meeting at our local Starbucks, the other day. I’m on the Advertising and Publicity Team. Then later that evening I took my twinlings to their Boy Scouts meeting. Then today I had to go pick up a package at the post office (Thanks Sydney) and then drove my daughter to her Girl Scouts Ice Cream Social party, after which I took my twinlings to visit with their buddy, C, while my daughter participated in a fun music class. Whew!
By the time I got home, the right side of my head was throbbing, my eye was aching, and I was exhausted. All I wanted to do was lay down and take a nap. My head feels like I have a severe sinus headache, which probably wouldn’t be far from the truth. I’m not supposed to blow my nose or sneeze with my mouth closed because of the possibility of air getting into my sinuses and rupturing the broken bones surrounding my eye, or even causing my eye to bulge out. (eeeww). But if you’ve ever sneezed while keeping your mouth open, you know how dissatisfying it is.
I also find that I can’t do more than 20-30 minutes of computer time before my head and right eye aches, so if anyone has missed me at their blog, that’s why.
Heck, it’s taken me 3 days just to get this post written and uploaded.
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Well, those are just my issues. Apache has some of her own, hence the analogy of a tangled, knotted mound of string. We all know how frustrating it is to untangle a confusing mess of knotted string, and that’s how I view Apache’s issues.
Some of you might remember how she came up lame after our first day riding in the Carson National Forest during our horse camping July 4th weekend. She seemed to have strained her shoulder or leg. I gave her a month off and she seemed to be all healed up. I took my daughter Jen for a ride and I rode her a couple times, too. We even did some obstacle training exercises and she was looking great.
(I took this video of Apache practicing the Black Hole, today.)
Then she kicked me in the face and she had off another week. About 5 days after she kicked me, I went up to feed her and when she walked towards me I was shocked and upset to see her stumbling and weaving sideways several times, whenever she reached back to her flanks to bite or chase away a fly.
(This video was taken the first day I noticed her ataxia symptoms)
My first thought was that she had injured herself, or pulled something in her back while my neighbor friend was running her horses around their arena, which shares a fence line with Apache’s paddock. Sometimes when her Arabians run, Apache will get excited and join them.
Her stumbling only affected her front legs, so I knew it wasn’t several other illnesses. Apache also had a normal appetite and she was pooping normally, too.
But her imbalance and stumbling are certainly upsetting and worrisome because I’ve been constantly aware of her when she’s near me, concerned that she might stumble and fall into me.
So after speaking with my WNCR Horse Rescue mentor, Colleen, who advised me to keep a daily diary, and doing more research and investigating, both with Apache in movement, and on the internet, I discovered that horses can be poisoned by sage, of which we have many sage shrubs in our paddock. And come to find out, I had actually seen Apache nibbling on the sage that week.
(I took this video of her stumbling, just two days after the first time I saw her symptoms of ataxia. This time really disturbed me, for the distance that she stumbled and weaved sideways. I thought she might even fall over!)
But what had changed? I had never seen Apache eat sage before. Heck, I’d never seen my previous mare, Baby Doll eat any sage for that matter.
I remembered how Apache had an allergic reaction to the Pirahana fly spray that I sprayed on her a few weeks ago, before she kicked me. She became swollen all over and her skin even oozed serum in two places on her back end and lost some hair where the fly spray must have been sprayed too wet. I felt stupid because she had had a similar reaction during the June ACTHA event when Colleen and I sprayed her with fly spray, too. But we thought her reaction was to the flies and no-see-ums instead.
I just wanted to give her some relief from the nasty, annoying, biting flies, but now I know that she’s allergic to typical fly sprays. I washed her down right after I realized what had happened, and the swelling went down by the next day. Except recently I’ve noticed that the texture of her hair on her back and withers is rougher and the hair looks ‘ruffled’ in waves, for lack of a better term. I wonder if this is related to the fly spray reaction? Or something else?
The only other thing I could figure was that Apache was hungry. After she kicked me in the face, Ranchman John or my twinlings fed her for almost an entire week so I could heal and not have to deal with the dust and hay. I never asked them to feed her any of the simple grain mixture I typically fed her once a day, because I didn’t want to ask too much from them, and with Apache not doing any work, her grain, even though it is molasses-free, isn’t really necessary anyway. It’s just something I like to do for her, and the flax and extra vitamins make her coat shinier, too.
But I also discovered that they were only feeding her a flake of hay twice a day, while I tend to feed her a flake and 1/2 of grass hay three times a day. So she was missing an entire meal. No wonder she was hungry enough to eat the sage.
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Well, I immediately started feeding Apache her third meal and her typical cup of grain at lunch or dinner and within a few days, her stumbling, tripping and weaving sideways seemed to have gone away.
Only to be replaced yesterday by the same type of lameness she had after her injury in the Carson National Forest in July! Aggh!
(I took this video today as we were walking up to the barn. See how she favors that left leg?)
She is favoring the same leg and shoulder she did during our horse camping trip, especially walking up hill. Oddly enough I’ve seen her trotting without any limping and she doesn’t seem to have any trouble putting weight on it when she is standing still. Why now? What could she have done to re-strain that shoulder or leg?
And then on Sunday, I was working with her, at liberty, over the ground poles and she kept stumbling and tripping over them. After a couple tries, I just gave up. I think part of the problem was she kept focusing on me and not the poles, but still, I don’t think she should have stumbled over the poles as much as she did.
I’ve felt her legs and feet and don’t feel any areas of swelling or heat. I can pick up all four hooves and she doesn’t favor one, or seem tender, while I’m holding any of them. I’ve rubbed and prodded her shoulder and can’t find anything that feels sensitive or sore. Or maybe Apache is just very stoic?
(Another video taken today of her left side, the side she seems to be favoring. What do you see? What do you think?)
I’m planning to have the chiropractor come out to check her and give Apache a treatment next week. Colleen and I worry there might also be something neurological going on, but I hope we’re wrong.
My birthday is in three days and sadly Ranchman John won’t be able to come home to help me celebrate. And with all the worries I have with myself and Apache, I’ve just not been in the mood to be very upbeat or spend time blogging.
Positive thoughts and prayers would be very much appreciated……..
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If you recal the state of her teeth when you got her ( I know you do ) and what a sweet mare she still was ,I would say Stoic is an understatement. With the severe wobbling she had going on it seems not unlikley that she could have strained that shoulder again. or injuerd her neck. She may have fallen when you weren't watching? Hope the chiro can shed some light . Prayers ,of course for your continued healing ,as well as your lovely mare
I am so sorry Lisa. What is going on with Apache is very concerning. The stumbling and weaving definitely looks neurological. We had a horse at the farm doing the same thing, and he was sent to a vet in Arizona to figure out what was going on. They diagnosed him with Wobbles, but since he has been back home, and with the vets here doing work on him, he has pretty much returned back to normal. The vets here think he didn't have Wobbles, and had a neurological disorder, but aren't sure what exactly.
That is good that Apache isn't weaving and stumbling anymore. Regarding the lameness thing, she could have re-injured the same area of her leg, I don't think lameness is a sign of neurological problems, but then again I am not a vet. It is a good idea to have the chiropractor out and I know if they can't figure it out, you will have the vet out to check on her. I really hope it isn't anything serious and hope that she will recover very quickly for you. I will definitely be keeping you in my thoughts and prayers!!!
I'm sending positive thoughts your way! I've been thinking about you, hoping your lack of posting was just recovery time, and not a turn for the worse. Get better, and I hope you can figure out what's wrong with poor Apache too. You two are certainly going through a rough spot!
You have been one busy beaver... Being bi-lingual is fantastic but with the state of the world, chinese may be a better choice and to visit China would be too cool. Hope Apache is feeling better and you take it easy...:-)
Lisa,
So sorry to hear that Apache is having such a difficult time. How frightening to see her in such a state!
It sounds like you are doing everything possible for her, I hope that you get good news from the chiropractor. In the meantime I'm sending you healing thoughts - for both you and your mare.
Winter
Positive, healing, happy thoughts are flying to you as I write.
I will be thinking of you, Lisa, and hope your trials pass quickly.
You poor kid! You're really going through a rough patch. Head injuries are tricky, and I'd be in touch with my doctor, to see if what you are experiencing is a normal part of the recovery.
Apache's symptoms are worrisome, too. I hope that the chiropractor will be able to shed some light on things.
Been thinking about you and worried too Lisa.
Looking at the vids- chiro is a good place to start, esp if your chiro works with your vet. My gut instinct says an exam by the vet to start ruling things out is not out of order. She just *looks* different to me than she did when you first got her.
If you need me, I'll zap you my #. Meantime, hang in there girlfriend and be strong.
xoxo ~MM
Sorry to hear about both your problems. I wouldn't think the sage would cause a problem. Our horses eat sage all the time and I checked it out on several respectable sites and it's always listed as non-toxic.
We'll keep you in our prayers.
Dan
Oh, one has to be so careful with head injuries. It's so unfortunate that Ranchman John has to be so far away--but your twinlings are a big help, I'm sure! I know what it's like to not want to ask so much of them, but I'm sure they would be proud to accept the responsibility. (Wasn't it one of them that had to help Mom when she got kicked?)
Having savored sage tea in the past, it wouldn't have occurred to me that it would be toxic. But looking it up right now, it seems it affects the liver. My old gelding Corky (RIP) started having his seizures shortly after we moved here, and the neighboring rancher pointed out one local plant that causes liver toxicity. Vet originally said tumor, but it never got any worse, and I could actually talk Corky "out" of a seizure if I was calming enough, so he was willing to say maybe the liver thing (though one blood test showed normal liver function--but this was long after the original, and worst, seizures).
It probably wouldn't hurt to do some sort of cleansing homeopathic remedies (about which I know absolutely nothing). And obviously getting Apache back to her regular rations has helped. I wonder if the current lameness isonly tangentially related, having happened, perhaps, when she stumbled (or fell) due to the neurological issues?
Good thoughts headed your way for healing for both of you!
How perplexing and how troubling all of this is. The videos do such a great job of showing us what is happening. Scary and sad to watch, though.
I have heard of sage causing problems and one of my horses will sometimes come in from pasture smelling like sage. Arrghhhh....I can't monitor everything he eats!
I hope the chiro can bring Apache some relief, but more than that, I wish that your headaches would stop and hope that your recovery is speedy.
Hi Lisa, I hope you and Apache both feel better soon! One issue at a time..sometimes too many at once are hard to sort out. I am sending positive thoughts your way:)
Hey Dan,
I really wish you were right. Some horses do build up a resistance to it the more that they eat it, but there are several species of sage that are very toxic to livestock.
I didn't find out about sage poisoning through any internet sites, though. My vet has an equine health library and shared this title with me:
"A guide to plant poisoning of Animals in North America
Anthony P White"
An excerpt from that book:
Sagebrush Poisoning
Sagebrush is actually a category of plants that includes as
many as 200 species. It is found primarily in the western United
States. Sagebrush contains the toxin, monoterpeniod oil, which
is most potent in the fall and winter while are other forages are
scarce.
The symptoms of sagebrush poisoning are somewhat similar to
locoweed poisoning. They include incoordination in the front
limbs, excitability, endless circling, and overreaction to
normal situations. The effects of this poisoning are not
normally permanent, and complete recovery usually occurs after
about two to four weeks of being on a nutritious diet.
~Lisa
Lisa, I hope that you are taking good care of yourself and letting the twinlings wait upon you hand-and-foot!
As for Apache, I'm inclined to think that the "new" lameness is the "old" lameness, and I'd get a vet to look at it. A lameness exam isn't as expensive as longterm guessing! I can't tell from the video if it's the shoulder or the foot--have you used hoof testers on her foot?
I hope that the sage really is the cause of the stumbling, especially if you have a way to keep her from eating it!
Keeping you in my thoughts today,
Aarene
Oh my gosh Lisa! I am so sorry it just seems like one thing after another hits you. I hope the package I sent you made you feel better and you liked all the contents of it. I keep finding things that I should have included so your probably gonna have another package going your way.
As for the wobbling, I would get a vet out because that is really dangerous and if it is some sort of poisoning it could build up and be too late by the time you wait around to see if it goes away.
Have you had your hay tested? I know I gripe all the time about the importance of testing hay and that is just another reason why. If the uncoordinated bouts occur at random intervals with no connection between them it could be something in your hay that was cured with it that you would not notice but Apache would eat.
Either way I hope you figure it out and get back in the saddle and on trails soon.
Do take care of yourself and all others in your care....and yes, I was supposed to be a Combined Driving volunteer at the WEG, and the economy did NOT kick in and we are stuck paying two mortgages and not much else.
Healing thoughts headed your way from Washington State.
Prayers from here. I don't know if you have read about the issues Jack is going through. Turns out that he suffered pyrethrine poisoning,that lead to his fall and neck fracture. He isstill revovering from the neorologic damage from the spray-simple fly spray that he couldn't tolerate.
Hope you both get well soon
Oh, Lisa, so sorry you are having these problems. and our poor head, I used to have horrible migraines so I know what a terrible feeling that is. Hope the headaches and eye sight problems go away soon.
Poor Apache, I don't know what might be her problem. Hope the vet can shed some light on it, very scary.
You hang in there, with all of us sending you good thoughts and prayers things should get better soon! :-)
hugs....
jane
So sorry all of this is happening! I'm catching up on posts and hated to read about your injury! I hope the headaches and vision improves soon. Sage might be like cedars here - they grow wild and everywhere, and you need to cut them as soon as you see them. Is that possible? Hugs and prayers that you mend soon! and Apache too!
Lisa there is an injury called Sweeney Shoulder that can cause symptoms similar to what you are seeing. Here is a link to an article about it http://www.horsequest.com/journal/health/case2.htm
Healing thoughts and prayers coming your way! Hang in there.
I really like that you have some Enya music on your blog. It goes well with your topics.
So sorry you are having trouble with Apache on top of everything else. But I would get the vet out to do an exam, bloodwork, etc. Ataxia is not something to mess with. And her lameness looks like it might actually be on her right. Hard to tell. Hope things start looking up. Hang in there!
Bummer that the both of you are still feeling bad. Hope things get better for both of you soon. I did hope to see you in Santa Fe, but I hope things work for you to be at the Halloween rides. Ladybug and I completed all 8 Obstacles at the Santa Fe ride.
I think she might just be sore from her previous injury. In the first videos, she walks pretty nicely straight ahead - no signs of the left hind soreness that bothered her in some of the later videos. In the first videos the only time she has to rebalance is when she reaches way around to her right side to get a fly - it may be that she's stiff enough that she just can't reach that far without moving her front end. It would be interesting to ask her to move in a tight circle on the lead in both directions and see what she does and how she moves her feet. It's certainly possible that she has some arthritis in her neck.
The stumbling/tripping could be due to the hind end soreness, or the shoulder issue you mentioned. I'd try out the bodywork and see what that does - it may really help.
So sorry to hear about the continuing headaches - that can be really gruesome. Be sure to take as good care of yourself as you can. Sending happy birthday wishes - wish I could be there! (and thanks so much for your sweet comments on my blog)
Happy early birthday, and I am sorry that you are feeling so terrible right now. Did the doctor give you any insight into how long you may be feeling this way? As a chronic headache sufferer, I can sympathize. They can really do a number on you, right?
I will send a lot of positive and healing energy you way...
Now about Miss Apache...hard to tell about both issues or if they are related. It could definitely be neurological, but then again, it could be a pinched nerve or something.
And I agree with others that the left front lameness issue may be an old injury that is flaring up for some reason. Lameness can be a bugger to diagnose...
Hopefully you know something by today, as I am thinking that your chiro has been out.
Take care, and know that I will be thinking of you. : )
I hope you are taking care of yourself and are going to have a huge birthday cake to celebrate. The headaches and eye aches sound miserable. Feel better soon.
Apache should really be seen by a vet to see what's going on. Hope she is doing better soon too.
Do Dorry you are both having problems. I have no clue, so my two cents is worth less than that. But my prayers are worth their weight in gold, so those are yours :-)
I hope you can get some more rest and heal up; head injuries take a lot of time, please don't overdo things.
I thought the videos looked more like Apache is favoring her right front. Have you ruled out abcesses? It will be interesting to see what the chiro says.
I'm finding Apache's symptoms very interesting. My husband has seizures when exposed to Eastern Oregon hay, where lots of sagebrush grows. Not local hay where we were at in Oregon, not local Georgia hay. Just that Eastern stuff. Docs never came up with a reason for the seizures and we put two and two together ourselves after months. Wonder if the two issues are related? Hmm...
Your plate is over heeped with more than your share of responsibility, health issues, and life issues in general. Is there any way you can squeeze some time for youself soon...maybe a massage, yoga or meditaion??? Even just sitting quietly breathing... some energy work could also be helpful. So sorry for all your troubles!
Oh my goodness Lisa, you poor thing! I can't believe all the dramas you have been having. Apache kicked you - I am stunned, but now reading that she is sick, I guess it is a little more understandable.
I am sending all good wishes your way for a speedy recovery and a happy reunion with a hopefully fully recovered horse.
Sorry you have been having such a tough time.
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