Saturday, November 5, 2011

Meeting Temple Grandin

 

What a difference a day makes.

Friday was chilly, but dry. This morning was a maelstrom of wild, freezing wind and whirling flakes of snow. I’m glad Apache chose to sleep in the barn last night, so I didn’t have to brave this storm to let her into the barn, early this morning.

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Brrr! Winter is finally here.

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(Note: This is a long post. Grab some refreshments first)

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Friday was a thrill of a lifetime for me.

I met Temple Grandin.

In case y’all didn’t know. Dr. Temple Grandin is well know for designing Curved Chute Livestock Handling facilities and Center Track Restrainer Systems, that are now used worldwide, to reduce stress on livestock during handling.

She has also developed an objective scoring system for assessing handling of cattle and pigs at meat plants. This scoring system is being used by many large corporations to improve animal welfare.

Other areas of research are: cattle temperament, environmental enrichment for pigs, reducing dark cutters and bruises, bull fertility, training procedures, and effective stunning methods for cattle and pigs at meat plants.

She is a Professor of Animal Science at Colorado State University. And she obtained her B.A. at Frankin Pierce College and her M.S. in Animal Science at Arizona State University. Dr. Grandin also received her Ph.D in Animal Science from the University of Illinois in 1989.

Today she teaches courses on livestock behavior and facility design at Colorado State University and consults with the livestock industry on facility design, livestock handling, and animal welfare.

She has appeared on television shows such as 20/20, 48 Hours, CNN Larry King Live, PrimeTime Live, the Today Show, and many shows in other countries. She has been featured in People Magazine, the New York Times, Forbes, U.S. News and World Report, Time Magazine, the New York Times book review, and Discover magazine.

And in 2010, Time Magazine named her one of the 100 most influential people!

Interviews with Dr. Grandin have been broadcast on National Public Radio and she has also authored over 400 articles in both scientific journals and livestock periodicals on animal handling, welfare, and facility design.

She is the author of "Thinking in Pictures", "Livestock Handling and Transport," "Genetics and the Behavior of Domestic Animals," and "Humane Livestock Handling." Her books "Animals in Translation" and "Animals Make Us Human" were both on the New York Times best seller list. "Animals Make Us Human" was also on the Canadian best seller list.

She has also written many books on the subject of Autism/Aspergers, which you can see by clicking: Temple Grandin's Books

Have you all seen her movie yet? 

Her life story has also been made into an HBO movie titled "Temple Grandin." The movie shows her life as a teenager, how she lived with Autism, and how she started her career.

(Temple Grandin with Claire Danes who played Temple in the movie)

This movie touched my heart so much. As a Mother of a child diagnosed with Aspergers on the Autism Spectrum, as well as a person who fits many of the symptoms of Aspergers (mostly with understanding social situations) but was never diagnosed, this movie spoke to me on so many levels, and gave me hope and inspiration.

I couldn’t wait to meet this amazing lady, Temple Grandin.

My friend Suzanne gathered a bunch of us ladies together that have special needs kids (4 with Autism/Aspergers and 1 with Downs Syndrome) so we could get the Group Rate to attend an Autism/Aspergers Conference at the Sandia Resort and Casino in Albuquerque.

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One of my dearest, long time friends joined us, too. I first met Julie over 15 years ago when I went to work for her family as a Nanny and cared for her 3 sons, one of which who has Downs Syndrome. I’m grateful we’ve kept in touch over the years and it was wonderful spending a day with her during the conference.

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The Autism/Aspergers Conference began with Dr. Jed Baker, who is the director of the Social Skills Training Project, a private organization serving individuals with autism and social communication problems. He also directs social skills training for Millburn Public Schools in New Jersey. He is on the professional advisory board of Autism Today, ASPEN, ANSWER, YAI, the Kelberman Center and several other autism organizations. In addition, he writes, lectures, and provides training internationally on the topic of social skills training and managing challenging behaviors. He is an award winning author of five books: Click Link for Book Site. His work has also been featured on ABC World News, Nightline, the CBS Early Show, and the Discovery Health Channel.

While Jed Baker was full of helpful and useful information, advice and ideas, and was very entertaining and humorous, much of what he spoke about didn’t pertain to my own family. My friend Julie and I agreed that he tended to be quite verbose and focused too much on one subject for a very long time, such as peer groups, “lunch bunch”, and persuading a child to give up something or stop what they were doing without having out of control melt downs. This isn’t something we have a problem with in our home, and because we homeschool we don’t have issues with bullying where we need the support of peers or a “lunch bunch” to make life more bearable for a child dealing with being ‘different’.

But the majority of Conference-goers, a couple hundred people, were professionals, teachers, psychologists, therapists, counselors, etc, so I got the feeling that much of what was being discussed was for their benefit. As parent, most of what Jed Baker had to say, quite honestly, just seemed like common sense.

For the professional who works with large groups of kids that are basically strangers, I could see where what he had to say could be useful. But still, considering that my day began at 5am, I showed up for registration at 7am, the conference began at 8:15am, and Jed Baker spoke from 8:30 until 2:30pm (with lunch and a scattering of brief breaks thrown in)…….it was a long, tedious day.

(The continental breakfast was good, though)

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But it wasn’t until lunchtime that my spirits were raised when we all walked out to find some lunch (casino food rocks!) that we saw Temple Grandin at the book table signing books and realized excitedly that there was hardly anyone around. This was my opportunity to meet Temple Grandin in person (Eeeeee!!!)

First thing I did was mosey on over and purchase the two books I had my eye on……

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……and then I walked over and asked Temple Grandin to sign them, which she graciously did. (Eeeee!)

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I spoke with her for a few minutes. She asked me how I was related to someone with Autism and I briefly told her about my daughter. I never asked her any questions on how to work with my daughter, but she went right into asking me if I was having any issues with teaching my daughter to read or learn Math. She gave me some very useful advice for teaching Math concepts after I told her about my daughter’s interest in chickens. Temple was very interested in our chickens and seemed impressed that I allowed Jenna full responsibility in caring for and raising our flock of chickens. We got to talking about the more humorous aspects of chickens and she commiserated on our previous plight with our bad-boy rooster, Sid Vicious. I found myself very at ease chatting with her, probably because we both have a love for animals and the conversation just flowed naturally. Temple also seems to be a very unpretentious, humble person, and I was even more impressed with her after our conversation.

And then…….we had our picture taken together! (Eeeeee!)

Temple had gently taken my hand in this photo, and I felt like I wanted to give her a hug, but I didn’t want to make her uncomfortable, so I abstained……until later(!!)

So, we all left to go find some food (a yummy large Green Chile Hamburger and tasty Onion Rings for me….and Free soda…all for only $4.00! Gotta love those casinos!) and then headed back to finish up the Dr. Jed Baker portion of the Conference.

To introduce Temple Grandin, a short video introduction with scenes from the making of her movie played. When Temple walked up to the stage, you could just feel the energy in the room. Everyone gave her a standing ovation, but ironically, Temple didn’t even seem to notice and never even said Thank you. But I don’t think any of us minded. It was just a simple way to show respect and to honor such a very special, outspoken woman and all that she has accomplished, because even though she is different….she is in no way, less. Temple Grandin is a hero on so many levels.

  

I won’t go into the “meat” of her speech, but I would love to share some of my favorite “Temple-isms”, or quotes that made me smile, laugh or just totally relate to:

~“Algebra is not a pre-requisite for Geometry - Check your Facts People! Geometry came first!”

~”Don’t De-Geek the Geek”

~”Bring Tech Skills Back into Schools! We are losing our skilled laborers in favor of computer skills. In the near future we will be lacking carpenters, electricians, plumbers, auto mechanics….”

~”Tell Video Game Playing Teens that Oil Rigs have joy sticks, too”

~”Half of all Silicone Valley have Aspergers: Steve Jobs, Bill Gates…….”

~”It’s ok for Geeks to Cry, they Rule the World”

~”Those of us with Autism/Aspergers are still emotionally a child. Just check out today’s Wall Street Journal (11/4/11) and read about the computer geeks who are fascinated with My Little Pony!! Seriously!”

~”Hanging out with Teenagers is not on my Lifeskills List” (after talking about how rude most teenagers tend to be: grabbing at her, being too pushy, thoughtless comments, and trying to shake her hand like a dead fish.)

~”Autistic/Aspergers People Keep the World Going”

~”Imagine how many drugs Tesla or Albert Einstein would be on if they were alive today!” (after discussing how we overmedicate children and adults for Autism)

~”I still remember having to go to church on Easter and my Mother making me wear that stupid hat with the fake fruit on it” (after saying how important it is to include Autistic children in all family activities.)

~”Visual Thinkers are often prone to panic attacks and fear”

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Temple is a Visual Thinker. As am I. I have always had difficulty understanding the meaning behind what I read or people tell to me. What I often see is different from what the original intention was. I process information using pictures in my brain. And I tend to over think most everything I come up against. Trying to decipher things sometimes gets me into trouble and probably makes people think I’m a little strange or a trouble maker.

“Do they mean this, or that, or something else?”

The Internet Social Scene is the most challenging for Visual Thinkers. What I read online, especially in social situations can be very confusing to understand or figure out. Oftentimes what one person writes is not really what they mean. And comments are usually written in short, brief sentences(or what I have called “sharp” in the past, because brief, cheeky comments look 'sharp' around the edges to me. This word 'sharp' once even ended up offending a fellow blogger when I asked her about the comments she kept leaving me. Her comments were brief and looked to have an 'edge' to them. She dumped me as a friend just because I used that word (she had no interest in knowing why), but she's still blogging and I have since learned that the comments she leaves on other's blogs are just her personal style and way of being funny. But it sure confused me and made me wonder if there was more meaning behind her words ). So, now I'm often afraid to ask people what they mean when they leave a comment or write a blog post, for fear of offending. I also get worried that my own comments will confuse, annoy or offend as well.

These types of social situations can lead to a lot of anxiety and worrying for a Visual Thinker.

Having Autism or Asperger symptoms can be like working your way through a complicated puzzle every day.

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When Temple’s speech was over, I was left wanting more. In fact, I can attest to the fact that 1 1/2 hours is far too short to allow this outspoken, engaging, knowledgeable woman to speak. I really don’t know why the planners gave Temple such a short section at the end. In fact I felt as if she wanted to share more about herself, which I was wanting more of, too. And she seemed rushed, having to follow the pre-written syllabus and outline, probably to keep the speakers on track while covering everything the attending professionals required, so they could receive their Continuing Education Credits and Certificate.

(Which even us parents were given as well)

At the end, Temple Grandin did have a 30 minute Question/Answer Session. And I wanted to ask a few more questions, but got too nervous to raise my hand.

Instead, afterwards, I made my way to the Book Sales area where Temple was waiting to sign more books, and I spoke with her at that time.

I overheard other people asking her for advice on Autism issues affecting their students or their own children, but I was really more interested in Temple Grandin the Person, and figured much of the advice I might seek will be within her books or video. So instead I asked her:

1)What future projects will you be working on? And/Or what other issues or problems are you wanting to solve or educate others on?

She shared with me that her focus is mostly on education and she doesn’t have any plans for livestock related architectural design. She was most excited about a future speaking engagement for a Major Company (“one we have all heard of” in her own words…as she leaned in close to me to whisper in my ear). This company supposedly has a very large number of Asperger affected employees working for them. (After thinking about it, my guesses were Intel, which has a large factory here in New Mexico, Dell, Gateway, perhaps even Microsoft, or Apple!) I told her how excited I was for her and I hope this venture proves successful.

2)Are you still riding horses?

Alas, Temple Grandin is not riding anymore due to balance problems, and mostly because she is afraid of getting injured and not being able to continue her passion for educating everyone on Animal Humane issues and Autism/Aspergers. She did tell me that the horse she posed with, in the photo on my sidebar, was used to barrel race, and one day he slammed into a barrel, flipped over and was seriously injured. And sadly, is now too emotionally damaged to ever do barrel racing again.

3)What do you like to do in your spare time?

Temple seemed pleased that I asked her such an unusual question (I get the impression most people ask her questions about Autism, livestock issues, and her education). And she laughed and told me she loves to watch movies. And then she recommended two movies she had watched recently:

Rise of the Planet of the Apes

(Oooh! *shiver* Watching the trailer gave me goosebumps!)

Temple also advises to be sure to continue watching all the way through the credits. She told me this several times, but said she does not do ‘Spoilers’. She just said, “Don’t miss the part after the credits!”

Ok Temple. I certainly won’t. Will you?

Temple also recommended:

Cowboys and Aliens

With the same Director as the movie IronMan (another awesome movie!), this is another Sci-Fi flick. And like Temple said, “It has aliens, cowboys and horses…..what’s not to like?”

So, these two movies are now on my Must-See List.

I also joked with her that I think I have a good idea where her take of the Conference money goes: Temple’s vast, unique and beautifully detailed, Western-style shirts. She got a laugh at that.

At the end of our fun chat, I was feeling so comfortable around Temple that I asked her if she would be comfortable with a hug, and she smiled and said “Of Course” and leaned in for a genuine close hug…not one of those A-Frame Stranger Hugs. I then thanked her and told her how wonderful it was for me to finally meet her and get to know her better.

I think I was on Cloud 9 for the rest of the day.

If you ever get the opportunity to hear Temple Grandin speak, don’t pass it up. And even better, don’t miss out on sharing a conversation with this fascinating, kind, funny, and special lady.



36 comments :

Dan and Betty said...

Way cool. I highly recommend "Cowboys and Aliens" as well. It's a fun movie.

Dan

StefRobrts said...

Wow, what an amazing encounter! So often I wonder what I would say to my heroes if I had a chance to meet them. I'm so shy I would probably say nothing! I'm so glad you did and actually could think of something interesting to ask! What an amazing woman she is, not just having her special abilities to see the world as she does, but to achieve so much and make such significant changes in the world as a woman in a field that is clearly male dominated. I'll have to get one of her books and learn more about her. She sounds fascinating!

Alison said...

Wow!! I am jealous, and so very happy for you, that you got some real one-on-one time with her. Her story is so amazing, and it's not over!

I'm also impressed now by you, and your blogging. Now that I know a little more about how you process the world. You do all right with words, my dear! :-)

Nuzzling Muzzles said...

What a great experience. Thanks for sharing it.

Once Upon an Equine said...

Sounds like a great conference. Glad you enjoyed it and had such a nice exchange with Temple and got to enjoy the day with friends. It's a fun fact that Temple likes Sci-Fi. I want to see Cowboys & Aliens.

ellie k said...

my grandson has aspergers. I love this blog about Temple. my grandson has always been in regular classes at school and does very well, his social skills aren't good but he has learned with our help. his grades are in the top of the class. he is in the 6th grade now, I asked him last week if any of the kidsttease him or call him names, he said "no Gram, they think I am a cool kid" he has a lot of speach problems but copes very well with life. his math skills are above average and his computor skills are excellent. thank for the pictures and info.

Sandy ~~~ said...

Unbelievable....she is my hero!

Now Thats A Trot! said...

Very cool! I have seen the movie and I was surprised at how much of it I could identify with myself... I, too, have found I fit a lot of the symptoms but have never been diagnosed.

After watching the movie I looked up more about Temple's life and work. She really seems like an amazing person. What a great opportunity to meet her face to face!

AareneX said...

What a great experience! Thanks for sharing it with us.

clairz said...

What an honor for you, Lisa, and how wonderful for us that you took the time to write about your experience. I have read one of her books and have seen the movie--she is a fascinating person and gives us such an important a glimpse into the world of autism.

By the way, if you haven't read it, you might like Born on a Blue Day, by Daniel Tammet.

Sherry Sikstrom said...

What an incredible opportunity! I have to come back and read this post again right now I am just so excited that you got to meet her and have such a detailed and meaningful conversation!!!! Incredible! !!!!!!!

Reddunappy said...

I have yet to see the movie! My Dad seen it and talks about it all the time, he was really impressed.

Did you see her on Home Makeover, she is something!! She is really funny too! Quite the character, she made me smile seeing her on just that show!
I really need to see the movie.
Great post, I am glad you got to meet her and talk with her.

Mikey said...

Very cool! What a gloriously wonderful opportunity, and I'm so glad you asked her all those questions :) Great stuff!

Laura said...

Wow! How amazing that you were able to not only meet, but have an interesting conversation with such an incredible woman! It was smart of you to ask questions about her instead of just grilling her for information - I'm sure she appreciated that!

Unknown said...

She is one of the most fascinating people I've ever read (I love her books and perspective). What a blessing to have met her.

And those are the coolest shirts ever! :)

Grey Horse Matters said...

Lisa, you sound like you had a wonderful day at the conference. I'm so glad for you that you got to meet Dr. Grandin. I admire her very much and think it would be such a treat to meet her. You must still be on cloud nine.

Tammy Vasa said...

What an amazing opportunity. I had forgotten about the movie and will put it on my Must See list this winter. Great post, Lisa.

Jeni said...

Very cool! That was an awesome opportunity =)

The movies - Cowboys and Aliens is my fav between the two!

Cheryl Ann said...

Lisa, I completely agree with this:
"Bring Tech Skills Back into Schools! We are losing our skilled laborers in favor of computer skills. In the near future we will be lacking carpenters, electricians, plumbers, auto mechanics….” Not every kid HAS to go to college, for crying out loud! And, yes, we NEED carpenters, electricians, plumbers, and auto mechanics! I will finish reading your article on her after breakfast. Very interesting! Thank you for sharing.

strivingforsavvy said...

I am so happy for you! It was a special day and I'll bet Temple really enjoyed you too!! I have read her books and seen the movie. She is an inspiration.

Dreaming said...

This is a wonderful post. I thoroughly enjoyed meeting Temple Grandin, through you. Thank you!
My oldest son is a Silicon Valley geek. I see Ausberger's tendencies in him... as well as in myself. Like all human traits, I believe there exists a line for every trait and everyone slides up and down that line. The line could be "socialization" with anti-social on one end and very social, popular on the other. The line could be intelligence. The line could be musical abilities. Etc. I believe that is what makes each of us truly unique and 'human'. I love celebrating the gifts each human has! Thanks for sharing those of Temple, yourself and your kids!

Carol Anne said...

I have always had a lot of respect for Tample Grandin and what she has done for the welfare of animals. She truly is an amazing lady!
I have one of her books: Animals in Translation and I have seen her movie -- both Excellent.
The movie saddened me in places as far as how she was treated by people that did not understand autism. I truly do think this movie is something everyone should see .
I am glad to hear that you had such a positive experience in meeting her :)

jane augenstein said...

Wow, Lisa! What a great experience you had and to get to talk to her, how exciting! I have read one of her books but would like to read more. I have seen her layouts for cattle chutes and pens, very interesting. What an amazing woman! What an exciting day you had!!!
WooHoo!!!
Jane

DesertHen said...

Lisa...this is a wonderful post! I could feel your excitement while reading your words! I have been meaning to watch Temple's movie for some time now and just haven't done it, but now I'm going to add it to my list of "must do" for this month! I hope Netflix has it! Temple will actually been in Reno in November speaking at the University of Nevada Reno. I have several work friends that will be going to see her speek, but I'm not able to attend due to the distance I live from Reno. We were hoping they would broadcast her talk at work(I work for the Univesity of Nevada Cooperative Extension system which is housed under UNR), but so far there are no plans for that either. I'm sad now as I think I'm really going to be missing something special and amazing! I'm so glad you got to have this experience and chance to meet her! I'm so happy for you! =)

lilyrose said...

So cool that you not only got to meet Temple Grandin...but had meaningful conversation with her! She is an amazing woman. I totally understand your worries about comments on blogs. I don't comment often, as I always fear I will offend someone (not on purpose).

Anonymous said...

I concur with Dreaming. I have a very rich sense now of who this person is. Through your descriptions of her but also through your descriptions of the kinds of associations she evokes in you. Nice writing.

Maery Rose said...

Wow! That would be an experience to meet and talk to Temple. It's funny that I would run across this post today as I had coffee with a couple teachers who talked about how many kids are diagnosed with autism in their classes and the varying degrees. We were trying to figure out if the labels sometimes did more harm than good. I don't know. I wonder what I would have been diagnosed with in school if they did that in my day? I had a terrible time in class as I couldn't understand lectures, couldn't understand math at all because I couldn't visualize it. I spent hours after school looking at the books trying to figure it out on my own. And I stayed clear of other students as I couldn't understand them either. I think we are a lot alike that way. But as I age, I don't care as much about whether I make mistakes. People who are my real friends will forgive my occasional inappropriate response or lack of response. I keep telling them they are my "test group" until I figure life out.

small farm girl said...

That is so great that you got to meet and talk to her! She seems like a very nice person!

Anonymous said...

What a wonderful opportunity, and you made the best of it! I've read a number of her books, and really have enjoyed her insights into animals and animal behavior.

How amazing that you got the chance to hear and meet her!

Laughing Orca Ranch said...

Thank you everyone for your wonderful comments, book and movie suggestions. Thank you especially to Flartus and Laura and Desert Hen. Your comments were especially kind and thoughtful.
Desert Hen, you really should try to make it work. I think you will regret it if you don't get to meet her. Perhaps plan a weekend Mother/Daughter/Friend trip up to Reno along with something at the Rodeo Grounds, maybe some shopping and museums.
Take lots of photos and then blog about it!
Make those reservations NOW!

~Lisa

Leah Fry said...

What a fantastic opportunity for you! By your description, she sounds like a wonderful person, and certainly one I'd enjoy being around.

I'll be interested in hearing about the math lessons involving chickens and how Jenna responds to them. I bet she becomes a whiz!

Tracey said...

Temple is incredible, isn't she? We met her at Summit of the Horse in January of this year...and I loved the movie. EVERYONE should see the movie, and just as you suggest, if you have the opportunity to meet her, DO IT!

Vicki said...

Another blogger I follow referenced Temple Grandin in her "The Wifley Person" Blog http://wifelyperson.blogspot.com/2011/11/what-me-worry.html. She suggested that had Temple designed the chute for our law-making efforts in Washington, the results would be a whole lot prettier, lol.

Greener Pastures--A City Girl Goes Country said...

Wow, she is so interesting! I know of her and taped the movie but sadly someone deleted it on me. Now I want to watch it all the more. Thanks for sharing all that. I really enjoyed it.

Lilla said...

Lucky you, Lisa! I so admire Temple Grandin and would love to hear her speak. She is such an amazing woman! Thank you for allowing us a glimpse into your fabulous day...

Mary said...

I can't imagine what a thrill that must have been. I personally don't have any experience on this subject, but I have heard of Temple Grandin, what a truly remarkable person she is. Thank you for sharing this.